Couldn't even make it to the end of the first page.

The comments about not complaining unless you try to do something about it have little strength when you don't have any authority.

reepicheep

I didn't read it all, but did skim through all three pages. There are some excellent thoughts there.

I try not to be judgemental when it comes to other peoples caches, but I'll have to admit that lame caches have taken a lot of the fun out of the game for me. It's pretty sad when you follow your GPS needle while driving, see it's taking you to a large parking lot, and then keep driving rather than look for the cache.

I've considered logging a "DNF" as a protest against caches I thought were a waste of time, but I don't think it's fair to insult someone who meant well and thought they were contributing to the sport.

Back when we had virtual caches I did log a few with a note rather than a find, but it makes more sense to just not look for something I know is not going to give me pleasure.

Why should I ruin the pleasure someone else might get from finding the cache just because I don't think it's worthy?

For all I know I'll be in a wheelchair next year and happy to have these caches to look for. I already appreciate them when off on a business trip w/o a car and discover one within walking distance of my hotel.

We can make a choice of what we hunt. Premium members can do pocket queries that skip the 1/1 micros.



~erik~

Like all threads in these forums, they tend to stray from their original topic. I was trying to point out that cachers should take time to THINK about the placement of their caches, however small and regardless of location.
I hope this doesn't degenerate into a Good Micro/Bad Micro as in past threads. Many of you know that I have been rather incapacitated recently, and I was even driven to a nice driveby micro up here on the Richard Russell Highway. There is a place for almost any kind/size of cache (even Virtuals).
On a personal note - if I ever get to the point where I am in a wheelchair lifting skirts for a keyholder - I will quit geocaching and start weaving pinestraw, or maybe Lawn Mower Racing. (That's just me, tho).

p.b I can see you racing one of these!



As for the rest, it just depends on my mood. I've gone on cache hunts where I found 5 and drove past 20. Just not interested at the time. I can see the niche the *lame* ones fill but I do get a bit peeved when I find one in an area that could support a nice good old fashioned ammo can.

Ah, well.

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or maybe Lawn Mower Racing.

So your racing name would be DADADADADADa...phat.man

How about "Greased Pig" or, nevermind.

More then you wanted to know here: Clicky Clicky

The current champ is from, ahem, Locust Grove.

Talk about a thread hijack! Anyhoo, I just cache as I can.

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Originally posted by phat.bak:
Like all threads in these forums, they tend to stray from their original topic. I was trying to point out that cachers should take time to THINK about the placement of their caches, however small and regardless of location...

I found a dozen or so micros the other day in a loop cache run and made the comment to my caching partner that with just a little more thought, some of these micros could have been a bit more exciting. For example: one was on a guard rail. But if the container had moved to the left just 30 feet and put on the rot-iron fence where it butted UP TO the guard rail instead, it would have provided more of a challenge because of the 'blending' factor. And it would have given the cacher more freedom to search because it would have been less visable from muggle eyes.

I just wish that when I perform a standard search, it used my 'Ignore' list to filter.

But where I may have been shorted on 'book smarts', I make up for in creative thinking and visa-versa for other folks. So it's hard to criticize. I DID see some new micro container forms, so that was a plus.

Edit: As I was signing one micro, I noticed a nice fountain in a sitting nook about 30 feet from the container, so I mention this in my log entry. That made the micro more redeeming. Of course mentioning this in the cache description would entice more folks to visit it.

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Originally posted by Rebel:
More then you wanted to know here: Clicky Clicky

I have seen these guys race. They were the warmup act at the Monster Truck show while I was at the Ag Center. They raced 3 times per day on two consecutive days to determine the winner. Their pit stalls were in the horse barn, and I got to get up close and personal with all of them. Them dang mowers can Haul-tail! The Monster Truck show is coming back to the Ag Center in October. Wonder if they will be back?

Here is a link to last years' Monster Truck photos. Can you spot me?
Southern Monster Truck Showdown

The only problem I have with the less imaginative placements is that they make it difficult to identify the really nifty caches ... the needle in a haystack. The best available tool to minimize this problem is the bookmark lists. If more folks would make such lists available, identifying the good ones would be easier. I have made good use of lists made by some of the folks posting in this thread. A way to find good bookmark lists is to go to the page of a cache you really liked, and review the lists shown on that page.

There are still a lot of good cache hunts out there.

Perhaps increasing the recognition for good placements would help encourage folks to be more creative, e.g. increase the categories for the Outstanding Geocache voting and make more than one award in each category. Putting a cache on your bookmark list is another method of recognition.

Recognition in geocaching seems to focus on number of finds, which probably encourages less imaginative placements, and lots of them.

Good ideas CharlieP.
Main problem is that bookmark lists are singly published and not a collaborative list by many cachers that lets you know how more people think.

I wanted to seperate cache listings by different areas of North Georgia so when you went to a certain area, you'd have a list of caches in that area.

reepicheep

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Originally posted by reepicheep:

... I wanted to seperate cache listings by different areas of North Georgia so when you went to a certain area, you'd have a list of caches in that area.

Hmmm, that gave me another idea ... it would be nice to have the ability on geocaching.com to input a location and radius, and get a list of all bookmark lists containing a cache (or a specified number of caches) in that area.

Ok this is abit off topic but kinda sorta relates LOL. I have a ? about whether it is better to archive a cache or update coords when moving an active cache. A few of my caches I want to move 20 to 30 yards away to change the traffic. Is it better to just archive it and make a new cache? What is the thumb rule for updating coords.

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What is the thumb rule for updating coords.

Well, the geocaching.com site won't let you update the coords more than a given amount. Not sure if that's .1 mile or less. Don't know if I'd consider that to be the deciding factor though...

I guess I'd question if the cache had a history that you want to preserve. I've got a few that have been out for many years that I'd probably update the coords on if I moved them. I moved one in The Dawson Forest three times over a mile and updated the coords each time, just to preserve the log history and the cache theme.

If you archive the old cache and submit a new one you encourage those who found the old one to hunt for the new one. So if the experience is significantly different after the move that would be the way to go, IMHO. If the cache is under a different lamp post skirt in the same parking lot I'd just update the coords.

~erik~

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Originally posted by ~erik~:
... If the cache is under a different lamp post skirt in the same parking lot I'd just update the coords.
~erik~

A different lampost skirt?
- I would archive it -

Thats what I figured and NO its not a lamp post LOL. I actually dont have one of those. But shame on me for a couple guard rails. Thanks Erik